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- 06/03/2011 at 12:28 pm #105285
Geoff Hardie
MemberHi Derek,
I live in Chirnside Park, Melbourne, and incorporated the 1000steps at FTG a few times in my preparation for our Kokoda crossing in 2007 at age 61. This was mainly in respect of my late father, a member of "A" Co. 39th Battalion who of course served on the Kokoda Track during the 2nd WW. Dad was Secretary/Treasurer of the 39th Battalion Association for much of the 1980's &90's, was mainly responsible for the organisation and installation of the Kokoda Memorials placed along this walk.
I have to say though, this walk is very much a "walk in the park" compared to the actual Kokoda crossing.
It is of moderate benefit, if only to get klms into the legs.I would recommend as a "must", either the walk up Mt Donna Buang from Warburton starting at the Golf Course or, the High Lead Track at Powelltown. Both very much duplicate the stepness of the terrain you will experience at Kokoda. The humidity you will experience PNG will of course, not be duplicated in Melb.
Best wishes with your preparation.
Kind regards
Geoff Hardie
07/10/2010 at 12:55 am #105052Geoff Hardie
MemberA truely great tribute written by Patrick Lindsay on a remarkable and magnificent Australian who will be sadly missed by many.
My sincere condolences to Gloria and family members who I have only indirectly come to know through a former work colleague, fellow Kokoda trekker, and current President of the 2/14th Battalion Association, Michael Ralston.
Geoff Hardie
23/09/2010 at 2:27 am #104989Geoff Hardie
MemberShane,
Great contributions from Shane and Rocky which I support.
A source of information worthy of a look is the website of Kododa Track Foundation. http://www.kokodatrackfoundation.org
Good luck with your project.
Geoff Hardie
08/09/2010 at 7:51 am #104926Geoff Hardie
MemberHi Dave,
Thank you for alerting this southerner to this article.
As you indicated, I believe Rory has written article with a fair amount of "tongue in cheek". He may very well be one of the lazy Australians who are basically too scared to attempt the Kokoda – Owers Corner crossing and along the way pay their respect to the scarificies made by our WW2 soldiers.
I have no doubt all readers/contributors to this forum have the highest regard and respect for everything about Kokoda and the local villages along the Track and PNG in general.
His comparison with Bali I find offensive however I am inclined to believe that with a very small number of trekkers, it is sadly, reality. I have never visited Bali nor do I have any desire to do so. I can only go by its well known unsavory reputation on many fronts.
Cheers
Geoff Hardie
25/06/2010 at 3:28 pm #96690Geoff Hardie
MemberHi Peter,
This plane memorial is located at Popondetta Airport.
Cheers, Geoff Hardie
27/04/2010 at 1:25 pm #104127Geoff Hardie
MemberHi Gail,
It was my experience that all locals acting as Porters were always most obliging, courteous and could not do enough to ensure the safety and the very best experience for their Trekker.
There is no doubt the wonderful spirit of the "Fuzzy Wuzzy Angels" remains alive and well in the current generation.
It was with alarm however to note from the above photos, the apparent overloaded nature of at least two Porters setting off from Owers on this latest trek
The current generation of the "Angels" are of course most appreciative of the employment opportunities afforded by the Kokoda Trekking Industry. I am sure we all respect their rights as fellow human beings and we therefore should follow reasonable health and work safe guidelines similar to those applying in Australia. In their endeavours to always please, we must keep in mind not to take advantage of their in built generous nature.
I do hope that reasonable weight limits (15Kg max.) carried by the Porters are strictly enforced. It must be remembered by Trekkers that the Porters themselves have their own needs which are usually minimal, but do add to this weight.
It defies logic why any Trekker would need to exceed this limit given a reasonable weight ( 8-10 kg. inclusive of 2-3 lires of drinking water) being carried in their individual day pack.
Cheers
Geoff Hardie
Editors Note: This year all packs are weighed by rangers so no porter is overloaded. The packs may have looked that way but they are very strict this year. Any pack found to be outside the track limits set down by the Kokoda Track Authority have to take items out of their packs before they can depart. One trekking company that started on one of the days we set out were forced to hire another porter to carry the excess. All our packs are weighed at the office and also again at Owers' Corner. The trekkers packs are also weighed at Owers' Corner. Including the porters own gear they averaged around the 17-18kg mark. The limit set down by KTA is 25kg. We aim for 15kg plus their own gear on top.
05/04/2010 at 3:16 pm #103825Geoff Hardie
MemberHi Amanda,
Welcome to the forum.
You will note from some of my previous posts that I have some very firm views on this subject based upon my life experiences with my own two sons when they were at the same age as your two sons. Other case histories are aalluded too were serious long term health consequences have resulted where young children have been subjected to heavy physical activity at too young an age.
It sounds like your boys have already experienced what it is like to be pyhsically challenged which will certainly be the case trekking Kokoda.
Provided you engage the services of Porters to carry the bulk of their trekking gear, both boys, I am sure both should be OK. It is critical that young developing bones are not subjected to carrying heavy loads, particularly the 13 year old, for a physical challenge such as Kokoda. I would urge you to seek the professional opinion of your medical advisers for confirmation.
Prepare well and I am sure the experience of trekking Kokoda for your family will be a life's highlight, as it was for our now two adult sons and myself when we trekked in 2007.
Cheers, Geoff Hardie
23/12/2009 at 12:33 pm #103787Geoff Hardie
MemberI also extend Seasons Greetings to all and wish everyone best wishes for the New Year.
As Lorna alluded too, it is an appropriate time to reflect on how fortunate we in Australia are to live in such a prosperous and stable country.
Friends of mine who also keep in touch with PNG affairs reported to me recently, quite disturbing cirtcumstances which continue to persist in PNG, many of which are all too frequently reported upon in the media and observed by us all whilst trekking Kokoda.
A recent report surrounded the cost of 8 Million kina to send a PNG government delegation of 30 to Copenhagen for the climate summit.
All this money whilst Popondetta Hospital, for example, servicing a larger surrounding population than Kokoda, has virtually no medical equipment or supplies.
Somehow I think PNG priorities are a little askew, not to mention the corruption which obviously goes on at the highest level. The reported attempted recent assasination attempt on their Anti- Corruption Commissioner is most disturbing.Again, best wishes to all for the festive season.
Geoff Hardie
16/12/2009 at 12:38 pm #103767Geoff Hardie
MemberHi Trisela,
Thank you for your support on this subject.
I agree that offering encouragement, moral & physical support to your children in all their activities is vital.
My wife & I always looked forward to participating in the activities of our children during their formulative years.
As young parents, with the benefit of hindsight, some of the dangers were not fully appreciated at the time, hence the thought to pass upon my experiences dealing with this subject.
Cheers, Geoff Hardie
08/12/2009 at 4:30 am #103713Geoff Hardie
MemberPast growth, prior to recent downturn, in my opinion, was simply not sustaintable without the prospect of further severe track degregation. Inevitably facilities will improve overtime, but hopefully, not too quickly that full scale commercialism takes over.
The global financial crisis has obviously been a major contibuting factor in this downturn which may turn out to have been a good thing to bring about this current analysis.
I agree with the view expressed by Brett that future growth must take into account what is sustainable. A similar situation was identified with Tasmania's Overland Track 20 years ago and group numbers were restricted to 15.
I have made my thoughts well known on this forum in the past about Charlie Lynn's trekking groups being excessive. Charlie, to give him his due, has achieved many good things for the Track over a long period however it is well overdue when he must be confronted "head on" about the overall adverse ramifications of his large groups. In our trek in 2007 we crossed paths with one of his large groups (100 plus inc. porters) so I know first hand what the consequences were.
Geoff Hardie
28/11/2009 at 12:26 pm #103699Geoff Hardie
MemberThere is no doubt some flexibility should have been shown in Kurt's situation.
In defence of Jet Star, they acknowledged this aspect after the event and apologised accordingly to Kurt.
Before we all come down too hard on budget or any airlines, consider the circumstance if, for example, the whole Australian Wheelchair Basketball team fronted up for a flight.
1. Generally most wheelchairs will not pass through the narrow passages.
2. Where are a multiple number of wheelchairs to be stored during flight ?These are the issues involved that necessitate the airlines providing purpose built wheelchairs to facilitate suitable transfer of wheelchair bound travellers from the terminal to their airline seat. Individually owned wheelchairs therfore need to be consigned to luggage holds.
Geoff Hardie
03/11/2009 at 10:46 am #103510Geoff Hardie
MemberHi Simone,
Like Brian said, your task will not be easy.
Our son Stewart, who walked Kokoda with his younger brother and myself in 2007 is also currently working and living in London (since Feb 2009) and may have some suggestions which I will pass on.
Provided you have a solid background in overnight hiking back in Australia, a good Gym program should be adequate. You have ample time to prepare.
Assuming you are travelling direct from London to PNG and your Aussie home is in the southern parts, I would strongly recommend you allow at least 2-3 days in PNG to acclimatise before commencing your trek. You will have have the moderate benefit of arriving out of the northern summer although London's summer will in no way prepare you for the heat & humidity of PNG.
I would also recommend you consider KTL as your tour operator. If you intend trekking Kokoda to Owers Corner, their Orohaven facility at Kokoda would be an excellent stop over for the 2-3 day accilmatisation prior to commencing your Trek.Best wishes with your preparation,
Geoff Hardie
03/11/2009 at 9:08 am #103509Geoff Hardie
MemberHi Rob,
Along with others I welcome you to the forum and pass on my best wishes with your thesis.
I have just received an invitation to the launch of Patrick Lindsay's book "Kokoda Spirit" to be held at, "Ellery Suite" Old Melbourne Observatory, Royal Botanic Gardens, Birdwood Ave (opp The Shrine). 10.30am-11.30 am Tues. 10th November 2009.
The book is to be launched by George Palmer, a 39th Battalion Veteran. No doubt there will be a few other 39th & 2/14th Veterans at the launch.
Should you be interested in attending, an email to the publishers, reception@hardiegrant.com.au would, I am sure, bring forward an invitation. (I have no relationship with the publishers other than sharing a similar surname)I am the son of late 39th Battalion Veteran and a member of the 39th Aust Inf Battalion(1941-43) Assoc Inc. I walked the Track in 2007 with my own two adult sons. Our group consisted mainly of direct descendants of 39th & 2/14th Battalion Veterans. If you are not already aware, you may find the Web Site http://www.39battalion.org of some assistance in your research, in particular past copies of their regular newsletters, "The Good Guts".
Kind regards,
Geoff Hardie28/10/2009 at 5:12 am #103450Geoff Hardie
MemberMy heartiest congratulations go to Fluppy on her well deserved successfull completion of her Trek of Kokoda.
Her merticulous preparation to overcome her disabilities is an example for all to read and absorb to assist with their own preparation.Gail, what a shame there is this rivalry from other Trekking companies. From what I have seen you have a first class facility in Orohaven which will overcome all this petty rivallry in no time at all.
Kind regards
Geoff Hardie
06/10/2009 at 11:45 pm #103257Geoff Hardie
MemberPete,
I concur totally with the points you make. I do not believe however, general discussions are either premature or inappropriate.
The point made by Charlie Lynn of Adventure Kokoda in his media discussions surrounding the latest deaths, apart from Trekkers needing to take greater personal responsibility, is that the Authorities do not ever release the results of the medical examinations of the people who have died on the track. No doubt family privacy issues are a deciding factor which is right and proper.
If we desist from discussing general issues surrounding these deaths, in the meantime "Rome burns" and more and more will continue heading for Kokoda oblivious to the risks involved.
Geoff Hardie
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